Saturday 3 December 2011

Inviting the girl over to your place

Three different scenarios of inviting a girl over to your place as either a continuation of a date or
the two of you just hanging out together will be discussed below.
The basic premise
The basic premise of all these scenarios is the assumption that you have already been spending
some time together that very same evening - either you have had a date, or met at some party
(wedding, reception, birthday etc), or a nightclub/bar/pub. But now that the party is about to end,
or the pub to close, or you're almost done with all the prescripted "dating" activities (be it
movies, restaurants etc) - what next?
Here are three different scenarios of proceeding for you to examine and make the right choice
from. Oh, and by the way, a scenario of You/Her: "Thanks, I had a really great time, bye now!"
will not be discussed at all, I hope you don't minds:)
Scenario I
Fluff talk. Facts talk. Then some more fluff talk. You steer the discussion to whatever seems to
hold her interest and you know you have exhibits of at home - arts and literature / you have lots
of books on them or paintings, statues etc; music / an records collection; movies / books on
movies or a movies collection etc. Now you can quite casually somewhere in the dicussion
mention "You know I have a great [book/collection] on [whatever]". And when the time comes,
you can say: "Well, why don't you come to my place and check out [whatever] I was talking
about. I could show you [this] and [that]".
She turns you down. And this was the whole point of the first scenario. She turns you down, thus
it really doesn't matter what you did or didn't do. The sneaking up to a cheap pretext to throw her
way is just one example of the wrong way to do it. There are countless more and AFCs all over
the world are doing it daily, failing miserably and getting laughed at by the girls behind their
backs.
In conclusion - she didn't even accept the invitation.
But I'm not telling you yet, how to avoid being turned down - read the next scenario:)
Scenario II
Fluff talk. Feelings talk. Onto the value and personality demonstration method (aka seduction
technique:) of your choice. You can see that you are making her feel good:) She smiles, laughs,
has a puppy-face, etc, things are going well. You might even be having some slight kino
(touching hands, maybe holding hands when walking in the streets etc). She has got to be into
you:) So up comes the topic of going to your place, for whatever reason, could even be the lame
"I'll show you this book and that record" pretext of the first scenario. And she agrees:)
She comes to your place because she likes you and trusts you. But... um... well you like her and
trust her too, otherwise you wouldn't have asked her over:) But that wasn't exactly your point:)
Oh well, you proceed to work your magic - make her feel good, relaxed, at ease, connected etc.
But sooner or later there comes a time of revelation for her - she might be about to see more than
just some book. Once she has had that revelation, she can either decide that she wouldn't mind
that at all and in fact she would like that very much:) ...Or she might first freeze up from the
shock and horror of the unexpectedness of that revelation, then panic and finally flee.
In conclusion - she accepts the invitation, but there are no assurances as to whether she also
decides to stay or not.
But I'm not telling you yet, how to avoid being run away from - read the next scenario:)
Scenario III
Fluff talk. Feelings talk. Onto the value and personality demonstration method (aka seduction
technique:) of your choice. You can see that you are making her feel good etc, everything starts
out just like in the previous scenario. But there's modification to it - instead of slight kino (holding
hands etc), the two of you will have much more intimate kino. That means stroking her
hand, hair, waist, holding her and then the ultimate test - kissing. Actually kissing serves a double
purpose:
a) As already mentioned, it serves as the ultimate test - if she is reluctant to kiss you when you're
hanging out, there's good chance she will also be reluctant to kiss you when she comes to your
place.
Kissing of course is a huge decision for a girl, so if you wan't to test her willingness to also stay
in case she decides to accept your invitation at all, you must first make the kiss for her as
comfortable as possible - you'd better have already had previous kino (hugging, stroking), be in a
more secluded place or in a place, where she feels its ok to kiss (so this could also be in the
middle of the dance-floor of a nightclub, where things like that occur frequently) etc.
If she refuses a kiss, don't give up yet, see the suggestions on kiss-closes in Closing. If however
she doesn't seem to want to kiss you, there's little chance that she'd accept your invitation as well,
for now she knows what it really is she has to decide about when considering your invitation.
You can still try of course, but I'd say that if she accepts to come to your place after having
refused a simple kiss... you've got yourself one strange girl:)
b) Aside from being a test of whether or not there would be any point in inviting her over, kissing
also serves as a mighty powerful aphrodisiac. She might be willing to come to your place
anyway, and she might be willing to kiss you, but she might not be thinking in terms of staying a
bit longer than it would take to check out a few books. Having started kissing with you however
will definetly sway her thinking in the horny direction so that she might even start thinking about
doing it with you tonight without you ever mentioning anything about... going to your place "to
check out a book or something":) But when you finally do that, she'll be more than happy to
accept:)
In conclusion - no turning you down, no coming over and then fleeing, but a girl who knows
what to expect and expects what she has come to know:) And that is the kind of girl you want to
"show your books" to:)
So remember - kiss-test/arouse her first, otherwise you'll be just shooting in the dark.
Update
NYC's suggestions to someone whose girl was comfortable with the kino and kissing but seemed
reluctant to come to his place. NYC and his usual graphic language, ASF: "FORGET YOUR
HOUSE! If you had taken her somewhere secluded, you could have fucked her on the premises.
She was rejecting GOING TO YOUR HOUSE... NOT you feeling her up. She was totally with it
and you lost out because you tried to change the venue. You can lose your vibe en route to the
new location, so I personally don't like to change venues. Do her in the bathroom if you have to."

Our World routine

The Our World routine, contributed by Maniac High (http://www.pickupguide.com), constructs
an imaginary world for both you and the girl, where the two of you can feel happy, comfortable
and relaxed, and free to do anything you wish irrespective of the rules and norms of society or
the attitutudes of other people, because quite simply - you are now in a different world, a world
without any outside influences, a world where normal rules don't apply, a world for just the two
of you. You are in "our world":)
The desired outcome of building "our world" in a conversation with the girl is to agree on ending
up at your place the next time you two meet. This also works very well when arranging a "date"
over the phone. But don't start building the world until you know exactly, what it needs to be
like. So first you have to find out about her values and principles and her possible objections to
meeting you / ending up at your place. After you've done enough value-eliciting and come to
know her possible objections (she might have a boyfriend, she might be afraid of social labelling
etc), you can start building the perfect world for the two of you, which represents all of which she
values, circumvenes everything she objects to but most importantly (and this is what you are
striving for:) - is free of any usual social restrictions and objections to sharing, loving, touching,
feeling wonderful in each other's company, you know where this list is headed to:)
The following example assumes the girl has a boyfriend as an additional obstacle (modified from
Maniac High's post to ASF describing yet another Japanese PUA in action).
The first thing to do is fluff talk and finding her interests, then shifting from interests to romantic
talk ASAP. For example, if a chick says she likes snowboarding, you'll ask if she ever had a BF
who liked snowboarding. If she did - start talking about that BF, and what he was like. If not, you
can ask if she had a BF with any similar hobbies and then what he was like etc. Soon you can
move into what she likes in a guy, and relationships, and the onto the general nature of human
beings. Make sure the girl is fairly intelligent for such themes though, beacause if she isn't, she
might feel like you're flying over her head and leaving her in the dust, in other words - miserable
and bored. So if she responds - continue; if not, switch themes.
Assuming she is able to keep up with the conversation about the nature of all human beings, you
can continue talking about what a human being is like in his/her essence and what are his/her
natural desires - a need, a craving for affection and nurturing; giving, receiving and sharing love;
feeling close and becoming one with another human being; feeling protected and safe, yet free to
do whatever her heart wishes to do etc. Then compare that with how society restricts her in
certain ways, like being able to have only one BF or one husband. Then talk about how it is
interesting that in other societies, like Arab or amongst certain Mormons it is different - the
woman is free to have several men and not feel ashamed or embarressed, because it is just an
expression of natural human feelings anyway (this one is tricky though - she must be intelligent
enogh to keep up with the conversation but not intelligent enough to know that those claims are
actually FALSE! So watch your step:). In western cultures however this is (unfairly) looked
down at.
This is where you introduce the concept of "our world". Suggest and idea of "our own special
world", where the rules of society don't have to apply (with the underlaying message of "cheating
on your BF is fine":), and where you can hold each other and hug, be comfortable in each others
arms, relaxed, happy and feel secure. Your goal here is to make her feel secure and free to betray
her BF, because all of this takes place in a "separate world" of just the two of you (apart from this
example of using "our world" to overcome her objections to cheating on her boyfriend,
remember that you can use "our world" to overcome any possible objections she might have).
After this is done and all set up, you then make the pitch for her to come over in order to enjoy
that separate world where you can be together and hold each other in "our world". You describe
how you can celebrate, hug, and don't forget to say directly that she doesn't have to have sex if
she doesn't want to (continue building a world of security and freedom). Say something like
"Have you ever felt/noticed when holding each other, how it feels good, how it feels to connect
with each other and feel fabulous. I think that sex, well its like a recognition of this connection".
Usually around this point, she accepts to come over and you agree on a time/date.
But you're not home free yet. Either when talking to her over coffee or over the phone, don't end
the conversation here. Her agreeing to come to your place might mean she will be comfortable
and then again, it might not. And even if she feels comfortable about it at the moment, she might
just freak out at the last moment the next time you meet and bail. Women have a much more
easier time accepting almost anything, if they have been told about it in advance and they know
to expect it. So instead of leaving now, introduce and describe to her the next time the two of you
are going to meet. Describe the initial encounter in beautiful, wonderful, uplifting and positive
terms. Plus don't forget to add some important details:)
Here's an example of what to say: "It will be a wonderful day, which you can already imagine
now... as I meet you at the (station/place), I will hug you, and that connection will be visible, I
will take your hand, and we will begin the journey to "our world" (my place:)... and then when
we arrive at the gate/door, I will kiss you, and we will enter together and how nice it will be to
connect, hold each other, being free from restrictions of the outside world, when we are in "our
world" together, and feeling fabulous together. And how wonderful that will all feel. You can
imagine that, can't you?".
Now that you're scripted the encounter, the two of you can depart. And when the day comes, act
it out exactly as you described it (you can't do anything about the weather though - if its raining
when you were describing a sun-shiny day, well, a bummer, lets hope she won't mind:).
So you meet the girl, hug her and say: "Welcome, I am glad you have come to share "our world"
today". You then take her and go to your place. At the door you say: "Welcome to "our world",
and add that you want to kiss you before you enter, like you said on the phone. Usually the girl
agrees and you can kiss her gently outside (setting the stage for when she gets inside).
You go in, sit down. Talk about a relaxing secure hug, then start to hug on the couch or wherever
it is you sat down. Then kiss her again - which is okay, since you already started outside. Then

some more kissing... and more touching... neck... ears... breast (okay, you're on your own from
here on:).
Maniac High: "He says it works every time. It runs like clockwork, and he could lay a girl after
about 20 minutes after they got in."

Proceeding instead of closing

A very viable alternative to closing is simply proceeding. If both you and her seem to have some
time to spare and things are going well, why would you literally want to "close" a wonderful
thing? To leave her wanting for more? To work some more magic over the phone and build up
anticipation, incredible connection and attraction? Sure, but none of this compares to being able
to make things happen right now. And if there seem to be no unsurmountable obstacles, then that
is exactly what you should be doing.
The following example adapted from "Sweep women off their feet..." uses big-time supplication,
but being fairly off-the-wall and presented as "anything to make you smile", it does the trick:)
The main value of this example however is the application of proceeding instead of closing.
"There is no better time to go out than right there and then. If you already spent some time
talking to a girl you just met and she is responsive, asking her out can mean nothing more than
taking the conversation somewhere else.
[Talking with female colleagues on the street]. Just as I turn around I see this amazingly beautiful
girl walking down the street towards us.
I looked straight into her eyes and said:
"You know what I think? I think it should be illegal for someone to be as beautiful as you."
As she made her way past the three of us, she turned her head and said:
"Who me?" as though she was trying to figure out if I was talking to her. She began to blush.
"Yeah, you! You are going to cause an accident. At least if I was one of those guys driving down
the street, I couldn't take my eyes off you and bump the car in front of me."
"Nah, you're just saying that." And then she walked into the building.
"Wait, just wait a second. Do you think that you're just going to walk into my life like that,
completely blow me away with your beauty, style and magnetic personality and then walk away
never to be seen again?"
"Well, as sweet as you make it sound, I do have some things to take care of in this building and I
have to go."
"That's fine with me. Just tell me how long you'll be and I'll wait here for you. I won't even take
another breath until you return if that is your wish."
Without saying another word she went into the elevator and off she went. Five minutes later I
was still out there talking to my two friends when she came back out of the building. I walked up
to her again and said:
"Wow, I knew that you were going to come back to me. You didn't tell me how long I should wait
but I was ready to go home and get my tent and camp out here for as long as needed just to see
you again."
She starts giggling and says:
"What kind of girl do you think will fall for this kind of lines?"
"Actually, if these lines can put a smile on your face, then I can die a happy man. I suppose I'm
ready to die now. My dream has come true. I made you smile. I wonder if I can do it again. But
you know this is not even funny. Usually I am a self-centered bastard just like any other guy,
keeping my feelings to myself, then this girl walks into my life and changes everything. I start
pouring out my inner most feelings and you think they are just some cheesy pick-up lines."
(Acting hurt)
"Somehow I just don't see you as a self-centered bastard. You're just being too hard on yourself."
"I can prove it, but you have to spend some time with me, perhaps have a drink with me around
the corner at the E&C (nice restaurant and sports bar)."
"But I don't drink. Besides why would I want to really find out that you are a self-centered
bastard? That's not what most girls want in a guy."
"Ok, I don't drink either. We can have a couple of soft drinks. But I know that in my attempt to
show you my dark side, you will realize how much fun you're having and I'll get yet another
chance to admire your beauty. I'll even make you a deal. The minute you stop laughing and
having a good time that's the minute that you get up and walk away. No strings attached."
"Are you buying?"
"I wouldn't even have it any other way."
"Ok, you're on."
The casual tone of the entire conversation allowed us both to laugh all throughout.
After drinks I told her that I had plans for later in the evening because I wanted to see this movie,
but I would love it even more if she came along. By now she was very comfortable in my
company and she had no problem saying yes. At the movies we bumped into an old acquaintance
and after introducing them he said out of the blue that we look good as a couple and that we
would have good looking kids. As you can see, we were already acting like a couple in love, and
that's how people around us perceived us. [well, you won't be able to count on bumping into old
acquintances telling you your kids will be cute, but acting like a couple in love goes a long way
nevertheless:)]. At the end of the evening when I took her home we kissed and said good night.
We never even exchanged phone numbers as of yet. From earlier conversations she mentioned of
her love to read and the vast collection of books she has. At that very moment I asked her if she
had any books on love and she said yes. "Can I take a look?" We went upstairs and she told me to
wait by the door so she can tidy up a bit before I can go in. Once I was in she showed me her
books and gave me the one about love. I sat on the floor and told her "It says in here that love
usually happens when you least expect it but if you're in doubt there's a little test to find out for
sure." I asked her to sit next to me for the test. We kissed and I never left until the next morning.
Though we spent a few hours together before this happened, the point that I'm trying to make is
the fact that meeting a girl for the first time can turn into more than an exchange of phone
numbers and a possible date down the road. In this case, having slept together, how hard do you
think it would be to ask her out on a date? In her mind it would only be natural that we continue
our "relationship" by going out together, and yes, more sex. But at the same time, the fact that we
both had the time to talk and get to know each other right away was the deciding factor. If we
were under time constraints and constantly interrupted, the most we would have accomplished
would have been the exchange of numbers and perhaps another date."
If at any time the time constraints and interruptions seem to be interfering with proceeding
though, you should do the close (taken from "Sweep women off their feet..."):
"It is indeed nice talking to such a wonderful person as you just about anything that can make us
both laugh and feel good. But can you imagine how much more we could enjoy each other's
company if we were in a more comfortable setting without any kind of time pressures or
interruptions, allowing us to really explore the topics of conversation that allow us to have a
good time and laugh the most. I think we owe ourselves at least one chance to experience that.
Wouldn't it be great to experience that and let it happen?"
You basically asked her if she likes to have fun. Who doesn't like to have fun? From here it's easy
to set a date for you to spend some time together."

Asking for a… date?

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Closing - the kiss close and the number close

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Don't forget to make a timely exit

NYC: "Even the most interesting guy can run out of interesting shit. Stay with them until you
have demonstrated personality and made them laugh and are at a high point... then CUT THEM
OFF. Tell them you have to do something or it was nice meeting them or whatever and you
would like to continue this conversation sometime under quieter circumstances. If your job is
done, they will give you numbers and you can leave the group... EVEN IF IT IS THE BEST
THING GOING! You can come back later if you want, but you already have their numbers in
case they leave or you need to rush out or catch a chick that wants to fuck right now! Even if you
have to exit the bar and take a stroll and then come back having done nothing for ten minutes,
IMO, closing at a high point and returning later on is MUCH BETTER than talking yourself out
and leaving nothing to the chicks' imaginations that makes them want to talk to you in the future."

Capitalise

To capitalise when doing a pick-up would be to * and #close with a girl. To capitalise with a girl
that you've already # or *closed would be to do a follow-up of calling her and then either by
patterning or using any other seduction technique helping her to realise what you both have really
wanted all along:) And then doing it of course:)
Apart from your usual pick-ups though, you might have gotten a girl interested in you in the
midst of your everyday chores - maybe a co-worker, a neighbour, a fellow student, a girl at the
cashier. To capitalise would mean NOT TO LET THAT WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY
CLOSE! She is already preconditioned to liking you, so why let such a perfect opportunity slip? I
assume of course, that you find her quite amiable as well:)
As for how to detect such an opportunity - you should know the signs of interest (see Reading
body language for more details). She initiates contact, calls, emails or starts a conversation with
you, smiles, asks questions etc, or reacts to your initiations more happily than before or more
happily than your average indifferent girl would, giggles with her girlfriends when you pass her
by, draws hearts in her college-block while sitting beside you (now you're not chasing highschool
girls are you?:). See "Reading body language" for more signs.
But she won't stay interested forever. Any day (or night:) a new prospect might catch her
attention and even without the threat of competition, her interest for you could wear off any
moment, no matter what the reason. Even if not really having seduced her purposefully, if you
detect her interest (and most probably she is doing her best to let you know:) and she is also quite
to your liking, do end her suffering and extend a helping hand:)
Make sure that is not a supplicating AFC-ish hand though - that is one of the main reasons of the
"I was interested in him/her only until he/she developed an interest for me, then it became
boring" phenomenon. Stay on top of matters. A girl that has developed an interest in you
independently in the course of a few months is no different from a girl that you just met and
helped realise that you are the man of her dreams ten minutes from meeting her - they both need
guidance or else they might get lost.
But you need to begin right away - don't wait for some non-existent "right time" to approach her
or ask her out (hopefully you're past any such thinking though:) or for her to make the first move
(she WON'T, and if you don't make the first move she will eventually dismiss you as an ignorant
chump or think you're not interested and in either case - she'll move on). Believe me, if you
already noticed the signs of interest, SHE IS interested! And don't even try to dismiss them as
random friendliness or your imagination, if you noticed them, they're for real:) Now once you
know she is interested - capitalise on it!